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| Posted: 18 Feb 2021 05:18 PM PST
Welcome all to what seems to be a Diablo-filled BlizzCon(line)! In just a few short hours, the Opening Ceremony is going to start, promising a huge host of fun and exciting announcements about the world of Sanctuary. We're definitely going to hear about updates for Diablo 4 and Diablo Immortal, and it's possible we'll get more information about other Diablo related projects. Since we're expecting a huge increase in activity (hopefully not BlizzCon 2019 levels!), we're going to be organizing some of the discussions to help folks chat about specific panels as they come up. Starting one hour before the Opening Ceremony, we'll be putting the subreddit into restricted mode, limiting the number of posts that will be going live on the subreddit. We'll have a Live Reactions thread get posted 15 minutes before each panel, as well as a Post Panel Thread once each panel concludes. If there is a major announcement, those will also get their own threads. Once the panels are complete for the day, the restrictions will be lifted. You can find quick links to all the panels below (once they are posted).
If you're interested in a more free-form discussion, feel free to join our #blizzcon channel on the Discord server. Where to watch:
Excited to see you all in Hell soon! [link] [comments] | ||
| What class would you like to see in D4? Posted: 18 Feb 2021 09:52 AM PST | ||
| Hidden Narrative of Diablo lore Posted: 18 Feb 2021 11:30 AM PST Note: This is Part 2 of my previous post. Just to be clear, English is not my native language, so expect some grammatical and syntactical mistakes. Hidden NarrativeDeeper Meaning Although the contention of the Diablo story is focused on humanity and their role between the struggle of angels and demons, foundational to this is the question: Who represents the greatest of humanity? There are two answers: the Horadrim and the Nephalem. These answers don't mean anything unless an explanation is given why they represent humanity's best. Horadrim According to the Diablo 1-2 lore, the Horadrim order was formed from the union of wizards and multiple mage clans. Basically, the core ideals of the order is knowledge and innovation, and they have an expertise on magic, whether mystic, holy, or empirical. The waypoint, for example, is one of the application of Horadrim's ingenuity. Through study, hard work, and perseverance, they created tools, spells, techniques, weapons, and armor to combat the Prime Evils. They not only represent the brightest and most capable of humanity, they also portray the unity of different beliefs and cultures working as one towards a common goal. Nephalem The Nephalem, as portrayed by the Sin War trilogy, has a different take on why they represent the greatest of humanity. Instead of the hard work or intense study of the Horadrim, humanity is great because they were born great, with the right type of racial inheritance. That is, until an "outside being" made it not that way. This is why only certain lucky ones can inherit this "gift by birthright" that was "stolen" from humans. Basically, humans are "radio receivers" and when the great "radio transmitter" (Worldstone) is hacked, the once great humans become weak and nearly powerless. In this setup, the greatness of humanity is reduced to mere "radio attunement" and "hackers" (Sin War Inarius and Lilith). Humans are also split into two: Nephalem and non-Nephalem. This stratification is dehumanizing, and has the implication that the Nephalem are the "true humans" and the other is merely a counterfeit or is universally defective. This is why it is easy to associate this problem with the extreme ideologies of real life — the lore used to exalt the Nephalem is similar (if not an enhanced version) to what Nazism and Scientology do to legitimize their institutions and indoctrinate people to their cause. The Nephalem in Diablo II
The Horadrim in Diablo III
ConsolationI asked lutsock about whether the heroes from other Diablo titles would be Nephalem or not. Here's the response:
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| What do you want more than anything from D4? Posted: 18 Feb 2021 12:11 PM PST I think the absolute number 1 thing I want is to dive back into the Player Characters. I want to meet a tribe of Assassins, I want to go to a temple filled with Paladins, I want to interact with a group of Druids. I want interaction with the classes of new and old. I want to see characters spanning the previous 3 games and I want some direct continuity other than Deckard Cain (RIP) I want to feel like the last 3 games MATTERED somehow and I think exploring the PCs would really help with that driving narrative and leaves plenty of content to be made for each. Edits:
*If maximum players/per instance is a thing, please for the LOVE OF ALL THINGS UNHOLY P L E A S E give us lobby based games again. [link] [comments] | ||
| New Meta Podcast: Blizzcon Schedule Breakdown Posted: 18 Feb 2021 04:13 PM PST
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| Any good Diablo 3 -like on Android right now? Posted: 18 Feb 2021 12:54 PM PST | ||
| Where do I claim seasonal character journey chapter 1 reward? Posted: 18 Feb 2021 06:19 PM PST I just achieved all 9 accomplishment in the seasonal journey chapter 1. However, I haven't received anything. what am I missing here? [link] [comments] | ||
| Posted: 18 Feb 2021 12:28 PM PST Noob question. How the heck do I join randoms games? I go on quick play. But it just puts me in a solo game. Or does it not have matchmaking? Xbox one. [link] [comments] | ||
| Posted: 18 Feb 2021 03:37 PM PST ROS ended with both Imperius and Tyrael fearful for the future. The Nephilim has defeated Malthael, but at the cost of losing trust in Tyrael and the other angels, even those who don't hate humanity. And with the odds of more nephilim powers awakening in mortals, and with those powers rivaling those of angels and demons, this could lead to new evils. And evil is always something the Burning Hells will try to exploit. And no other evil knows corruption better then Mephisto. I think that 4's plot will revolve around the Burning Hells trying to harness Nephilim power to suit their agenda, and win the Eternal Conflict. Now it falls to us to thwart this plan. This means that human enemies will be just as common demons, undead, and monsters. As for how to stop this, the only thing that could stop it apart from the usual kicking the 7 Evils asses, would be to nullify Nephilim power so that it can never return. Now I now a lot of you are not going to like this..... BUT.... given that Diablo Immortal is about shards of the Worldstone, perhaps the consequences of that games story could be useful. Afterall, the Worldstone held Nephilim power at bay, and maybe with Tyrael's help, any surviving shards could be used to create a new object to nullify Nephilim power. By the end of 4, the day is saved again, and the Demons have been driven back. But the cost is that now the Nephilim are gone for good, and one day, Diablo and the other 6 evils will return. Additionally, 2 new Archangels have been born and have taken Tyrael and Malthael's vacant places. It's not made clear if they are pro or anti human, but they must have eyes kept on them, just to keep doors open for for stories and mystery. [link] [comments] | ||
| How worth it is to get Diablo 3 right now? Posted: 18 Feb 2021 08:41 AM PST Hello. [link] [comments] | ||
| Is D3 worth getting into in 2021? Posted: 18 Feb 2021 01:47 PM PST Hello all! I've never played Diablo before or any games like it in the genre. I was curious if you think D3 would be worth trying out as a new player considering it is on sale right now for $19.99? Any insight would be great! [link] [comments] | ||
| Implications of lore after Diablo II: Lord of Destruction Posted: 18 Feb 2021 10:51 AM PST This is a long post so if you're the type of person who's strained by a wall of text, just read the Nephalem Backstory section below and skip the rest. Just to be clear, English is not my native language, so expect some grammatical and syntactical mistakes. Nephalem BackstoryThe preface fantasy of the Nephalem is fundamentally the syncretization of Nazism and Scientology. This is the whole point of the Nephalem: as the superior Aryan-Thetan race, the Nephalem must exterminate the lesser inferior races to prove they are the master race (Nazism) and the achieve the Eighth Dynamic (Scientology). There are five takeaways of the Nephalem in relation to Nazism:
And there are five takeaways in relation to Scientology:
Richard Knaak's Sin War trilogyNephalem PowerIt is common knowledge that the Nephalem have supreme powers. Uldyssian was the most powerful Nephalem. Not just a Nephalem, according to the Veiled Prophet:
Uldyssian was capable of pushing back the armies of heaven and hell to their respective realms. I doubt Uldyssian's apotheosis into a godhood was based on Warcraft's "epic" style of writing. Warcraft's counterpart, Med'an, is one of most hated characters in Warcraft (more information here, an article here, or video here). The conflict of the story begins with this:
Notice the wordings "depower the Nephalem into mere mortals" and "became Humans". This means that the Nephalem and humans are not the same. Rather, humans are the disempowered version of Nephalem. This regression from Nephalem to human does bear a resemblance to Scientology's Thetans:
Much like humans had a grander Thetan past, so too were humans previously Nephalem. There is a loss of "spiritual and creative powers" as there is a "depowered" "Nephalem into mere mortals". The Book of Cain describes what happened after the Sin War:
I should add that, in Mein Kampf:
Although humans aren't Nephalem, they have this potential, a power or "special gift" within. And it is up to an external factor that determines whether or not it is expressed, something like in epigenetics. Rise to PowerThese are the events in Sin War Book One: Birthright:
Now, this act of Uldyssian is similar to something else:
Uldyssian acts as a Scientology auditor, using Dianetics to unlock the power within. According to the official Scientology website:
But there is something higher than "Clear":
Uldyssian is not merely a "Clear" in this sense, he is an "Operating Thetan". And again, there are many levels within this spiritual state. The highest is "Operating Thetan VIII: Truth Revealed":
He is of the highest pedigree of Nephalem. Of course, this awakening of powers isn't really meant to build a better mankind. It was meant to be unleashed as a weapon. The Edyrem themselves were formed to supply an army for Uldyssian. Even healing powers were meant to quickly return them to the battlefield. It brings to mind the Schutzstaffel:
Remember that in the Sin War books, the strength of the armies aren't equal. The Edyrem are both "supermen and gods" and are indeed the second generation of "primordial warriors". Their enemy are mainly ordinary humans. It is this power difference that substantiates Uldyssian as good by virtue of strength alone, as other creatures and even angels and demons themselves are nothing. The weaker sides are merely "belong to the wrong side". Evil ReligionsSince the plot of the Sin War involves portraying Uldyssian as the supreme good, it is worth understanding what his motivation is. According the the founder of Scientology himself:
Further:
It is because of an "R6 implant" that religion exists, and that it is. Meanwhile in Mein Kampf:
By Hitler's own words, Judaism destroys "Aryan humanity". Comparing this to role of the religions in Knaak's Sin War trilogy, these "false believers" undermine the Nephalem supremacy. Now combine the Nazi and Scientology conception of "evil religion", it elucidates a reasonable conclusion for what Uldyssian did. These justifications are concordant, and the Sin War trilogy accommodates this as righteous. Religious GenocideThe conflict of Richard Knaak's Sin War trilogy is centered on Uldyssian's fight against two religions: the Temple of the Triune and the Cathedral of Light. Recounted by the Book of Cain:
In the Scales of the Serpent:
In short, Uldyssian committed religious genocide, and did not even spare the innocents because they were "tossed aside like the refuse that they were". This bit shows not only intolerance, but also a lack of humanity. A previous passage of the same book:
They talk of people as if they were just weeds. This disregard for human life applied to those of the Cathedral of Light as well, as it is written in the Veiled Prophet:
The deaths of the children and innocent victims didn't matter because they were of Inarius. That the flames of Uldyssian's will is biased on whom to inflict death is telling of his character. Being a hero in this sense means it's alright to be desensitized to the deaths of innocents — to instigate an assault in an unprovoked and non-retaliatory circumstance, and that this assault isn't strategically necessary and is completely avoidable in the first place. Diablo IIIReaper of SoulsIn the events of Reaper of Souls, Malthael's reapers created soul crucibles — basically a cluster of human souls used to, according to General Torion in game, "turns the living into Malthael's death creatures". This is similar to the events in Scientology:
These clusters are "trapped on earth as demons". There also mention of volcanoes, which coincidentally is one of the concept for Pandemonium. In Reaper of Souls, Tyrael reveals Malthael's method to achieve his goal:
There is a similarity of "demonic essences" with the "Body Thetan":
Malthael's genocide of the human race paints him as the dictator Xenu:
ParagonIn its current incarnation, Paragon is a system that was introduced in Diablo 3 that allows a character to continually gain power, and doesn't have a limit. There's an interesting passage of Mein Kampf that references this "infinity:
So basically, the levels from 1 to 70 are the "lower rungs" while Paragon levels are the "process of ascending an infinite ladder", since there is no cap. Note that as it is in-game, it isn't an actual infinity. Rather, it is a process that theoretically projects towards infinity. It doesn't sit well that the words of Hitler very accurately encapsulates the functionality of a major gameplay mechanic, which incidentally is also a gameplay representation of the Nephalem's superhuman lore. CorvusAccording the Reaper of Souls lore:
Rakkis' search for Corvus mirrors the Nazi's search for Atlantis:
As a side note, if the "Third Reich was a modern incarnation of an ancient super race", then the Edyrem, similarly, are the newer incarnation of the Ancients (first generation Nephalem). This is the origin of Corvus:
Now compare this to the words in Mein Kampf:
The Nazi's conception of Atlantis is fundamentally the same as the Nephalem city of Corvus. Zoltun KulleZoltun Kulle is one of the more regarded character introduced in D3. And I've noticed that many sympathize with him (probably against the expectation of the D3 writers) and say he was right that humanity should embrace their Nephalem heritage. But as described by Leah in the Book of Tyrael:
The Nazi were notorious for conducting unethical human experimentation to improve the quality of life for the superior race, or find means to improve conditions in the war effort. It's not known if the D3 writers forgot to add this explicit lore to Zoltun Kulle to the game as a means to incriminate him as a villain (instead of just his maniacal laughter). That some players sympathized with him and acknowledged the veracity of his ideals, then publish this backstory feels contravening to them. Temple of the FirstbornThe term "firstborn" has a great significance in Judaism. For example, in the Bible, Israel is the firstborn of God. Note that both usages of this term are ethnological (refers to Jewish people and the Nephalem), and not legal primogeniture. So who are present in the Temple of the Firstborn in Diablo 3? The answer: the Blood Cultists. This is how the cult is described:
A notable antisemitic defamation is the blood libel. Merriam-Webster defines blood libel as:
Blood libel was a Nazi propaganda used to justify their antisemitic policy. From Facing History and Ourselves:
Also, regarding Vidian at the end of the temple:
Vidian is the "deity" of the cult, and represents "envy". This part is interesting because in the Ten Commandments, God describes Himself as a "jealous God". The significance of the Ten Commandments is that it is the foundation of Jewish law, and actually appears twice in the Bible (Exodus and Deuteronomy), therefore elevating the prominence of this self-descriptor. This is the whole setup: a temple, dedicated to an ancient superior race (though the naming is ironically reversed), has been desecrated by a "Judenstern" group who worship a "jealous deity" by abducting children and draining their blood for "rituals". [link] [comments] | ||
| Weekly Thursday Help Desk, Ask your newbie questions here - February 18, 2021 Posted: 18 Feb 2021 06:00 AM PST Welcome to this week's installment of Thursday Help Desk. This is a weekly thread for any quick/newbie/unsure questions you may have. No matter how dumb you may think the question is, now is your chance to have them answered! If you need help with your gear and build, post to the weekly Gear thread instead! Check the Commonly Asked Questions page first before posting! If you're not here to ask or answer questions, then this place is not for you. The mods will be resilient in removing posts and possibly even bans. Meta feedback about the weekly post is fine. Helpful people will be strongly considered for an ID scroll after a review of posting history. Sort by new to answer the latest questions. Older questions most likely already have answers. If you have any feedback for this specific weekly thread, just post it here or message the mods. [link] [comments] | ||
| Diablo 2 Remaster Requested Changes Mega Thread Posted: 18 Feb 2021 03:09 AM PST Long time D2 fan here. I wanted to start a discussion on all the changes you would like to see in D2 remaster. How will your change improve the experience? Do you think a proposed change will have a negative impact? Let us know! Hope to get enough input we can gain the attention of devs to consider. Potions in my opinion shouldn't change, this is why building an insight felt so strong and as you built your chat stronger you felt the reliance on potions dwindle E.G. level 30 frosties Inventory and stash, let's start with inventory. I think a lot of what path of Diablo did makes sense with extra inventory space and allow for a full inventory of charms on top of the normal. Charms is a huge reason why inventory became such a challenge I could see them cleaning this up with maybe even a custom charm inventory up. The other thing with inventory is understanding how many people play the game at higher levels and that's collecting everything of value during a clear. With extra inventory space that allows for a more enjoyable clear without going to town every 2 minutes. 2-3x inventory would be amazing assuming the charm limitation benefit is in place. Stash this is something that was solved pretty easily with D3 with the shared stash. I really think that D2 is more horde friendly in terms of keeping stuff for building down the road so a larger shared stash would be better than D3 this would remove the muling problems. Auto gold pickup, not much to say here other than just changing the party gold dropped on death to not auto loot. Rework and proof corpse popping / disappearing. I think all long term d2 players have experienced some mishap here. Built in metrics for stats like MF FCR etc. Stackable basic items and runes / gems. Pvp area. Remove realming, any hardcore d2 fan can tell you this was a horrible change out the gate and had always been some anti bot half measure. Players should be allowed to run meph over and over if they want. In game trading system, think path of Diablo. Ability to zoom out a bit. Any changes to drop rates experience damage done or taken im in the no changes camp. What do you guys think? [link] [comments] | ||
| Things I'd like to happen in Diablo 4 Posted: 17 Feb 2021 10:03 PM PST
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| Diablo Remaster/Remake Reality. Posted: 18 Feb 2021 10:15 AM PST I know this is a controversial opinion and trust me I have no hate for Diablo ll: LoD. My Brother and I would play it until our discs would warp and explode. It would destroy our drives and we'd have to get new copies of the game and CD-ROM drive a couple times. My opinion: Nostalgia is fueling this Diablo ll Remaster/Remake hype. Without some serious changes to the endgame and quality of life the game won't stay hype for long. Look at how many people went to World of Warcraft Classic and didn't even hit max level before they quit. The only thing these games are good for are for a small taste of nostalgia and that they make you appreciate the quality of life changes in the current games. Let's hope Diablo lV takes the best things from D2 and D3. [link] [comments] | ||
| Posted: 18 Feb 2021 09:32 AM PST Diablo 2: Resurrected - basically a remake of the original D2 thats been in development for a few years. Diablo 4 - New class called Rogue which is a mix up of hunter, rogue, warrior from World of Warcraft. Diablo Immortal - Release date will be announced for this year. [link] [comments] |
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